Pyrus

Aug 21 2017, 03:42 PM

I_am_legendary

Aug 21 2017, 03:36 PM

Pyrus

Aug 21 2017, 03:28 AM

I_am_legendary

Aug 21 2017, 03:13 AM

Pyrus

Aug 21 2017, 03:00 AM

I_am_legendary

Aug 21 2017, 02:58 AM

Hit would adapt to anything toppo has to offer, he won't lose with just broot force. He has too many years of experience. Dypso was a bad match up for hit cause of his speed and his heightned hearing and hit was still able to adapt and stomp him.

That came after Goku saved him, though. He was moments away from being eliminated. His adaptation didn't help him one bit before that.

His adaption did help as toppo pointed out, saying the warrior hit is adapting to dypsos speed. Also That was two against one, dypso would have been eliminated the first time if he did not get saved. And there is no proof weather hit would of gotten eliminated or not. He stated he did not need gokus help. I doubt that punch would of been strong enough to send hit flying. Hit would of gotten serious and thought of something

Actually, you're right. I forgot Hit pretty much eliminated Dyspo with the afterimage prior to the Kush dude getting involved.g

So who do you believe wins hit or toppo

I still think Toppo would win. He didn't seem too concerned seeing Hit around, and he's still got implied feats over Hit..

lazerbem

Aug 21 2017, 05:47 PM

Decibel

Aug 21 2017, 05:18 PM

Toppo is stronger but from what we've seen he fights too linearly. Hits can most likely use a variety of techniques without fear of Toppo dying give him the advantage.

Dyspo's speed move gave him an advantage over Hit and he still got beat by him. Toppo has not shown an ability to overcome Hits time skip.

Hit's only claim to fame is spamming his special abilities because he's a weak chump otherwise. Hit's pretty linear, given he plowed into Goku's fists back in the U6 tournament and then pulled a dumb move like trying to time stop Goku in their duel even though he already knew it wouldn't work. And then against Dyspo, Hit for some reason gets his butt handed to him instead of just phasing every time Dyspo comes near. Hit isn't precisely stupid, but he overthinks his fights to the point that he ends up coming off as a blunder strategically.

Toppo only needs to be strong to shatter Hit's time skip like glass, just like Goku did in the duel. Except Toppo is stronger than regular blue Goku, so Hit can't even force a stalemate.

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Hit took his time to adapt and improve with Dyspo and then had him beat with one perfectly timed phase. If he showed it off earlier then it wouldnt have worked

lazerbem

Aug 22 2017, 12:26 AM

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Hit took his time to adapt and improve with Dyspo and then had him beat with one perfectly timed phase. If he showed it off earlier then it wouldnt have worked

No, it would have worked fine. Dyspo can do absolutely nothing to Hit while he's phased. Hit has no reason to indulge him in a fight when he can just stand there phasing to think up a plan while Dyspo uselessly punches at air. Hit's eventual way to defeat Dyspo had nothing to do with the element of surprise either. The only reason that Hit's strategy worked against Dyspo was because Dyspo was only capable of attacking in a straight line and was super weak besides his speed. Toppo, on the other hand, is strong enough to defeat Hit in just two blows(Blue Goku did so and Toppo is stronger than Blue Goku by a significant margin), strong enough to shatter time skip, and durable enough that Hit's blows aren't going to be doing much at all. The best Hit could hope for is to stalemate by staying phased but we all know Hit isn't smart enough for that.

For a tactical thinker, Hit plays his ability to turn intangible like an utter fool. Rather than just logically keep it on as often as he can, he instead attempts to use time skip which is pretty much strictly inferior to his phasing. This is what ends up making him tie against Blue Goku instead of winning and this is what gets him beat up by Dyspo for a good while.

lazerbem

Aug 22 2017, 12:26 AM

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Hit took his time to adapt and improve with Dyspo and then had him beat with one perfectly timed phase. If he showed it off earlier then it wouldnt have worked

No, it would have worked fine. Dyspo can do absolutely nothing to Hit while he's phased. Hit has no reason to indulge him in a fight when he can just stand there phasing to think up a plan while Dyspo uselessly punches at air. Hit's eventual way to defeat Dyspo had nothing to do with the element of surprise either. The only reason that Hit's strategy worked against Dyspo was because Dyspo was only capable of attacking in a straight line and was super weak besides his speed. Toppo, on the other hand, is strong enough to defeat Hit in just two blows(Blue Goku did so and Toppo is stronger than Blue Goku by a significant margin), strong enough to shatter time skip, and durable enough that Hit's blows aren't going to be doing much at all. The best Hit could hope for is to stalemate by staying phased but we all know Hit isn't smart enough for that.

For a tactical thinker, Hit plays his ability to turn intangible like an utter fool. Rather than just logically keep it on as often as he can, he instead attempts to use time skip which is pretty much strictly inferior to his phasing. This is what ends up making him tie against Blue Goku instead of winning and this is what gets him beat up by Dyspo for a good while.

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Then he walked away from the third encounter in much better shape then Goku.

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Hit gave the advantage to Dyspo for awhile but again hasn't lost to him. People can catch on to his phasing abilitly much like his time skip. Thats why he figures out an opponent and uses them he way he does.

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Lmfao, the reason hit did not phase earlier is beacause he was adjusting to his speed and wanted to time it perfectly and also catch him by surprise.

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. Anyway, hit has years of experience and is really smart when it comes to combat. Why would the writers have him intangible at all times?

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Anyway he uses his stored time to become intangible so he can't just spam it forever.